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i've been reading everybody's posts and have been enjoying it very much. i grew up two blocks from the state hospital. it was always a very spooky place until i became a teenager and my friends and i started exploring the place when it was totally off limits. and even then, it was a lil spooky. when the state hospital was sold in 1980, my friend and i contacted the owner and gained access to the hospital to do a study for school. this was when the asylum and all of its buildings were still intact. it was like a ghost town. it looked as if people just left with the clothes that they had on their backs. all the buildings still contained all the beds and medical equipment from eight years prior, when it closed. it was by far the most surreal thing i have ever witnessed. even though zeller was an innovator in treating the medically insane, it still seemed to have a haunting feeling about it. it was especially haunting whenever we would visit the official zeller building with the long hallway in the basement leading to the morgue. that was not a place i liked to go. in closing, my friend and i didnt get to explore the hospital grounds for long before they started to renovate the whole thing into some business/industrial park. many of the buildings were torn down and that place will never be the same. it will never have that same haunting and desolate feeling.

hhanse57, I was wondering if you could email me please. I would like to ask you a few things about the hospital because you seem very updated about it, and I could really use your help. My address is lawsdivine@hotmail.com Thanks a ton!!

i am interested to read after having read many of the articles that george zeller supposedly used no restraints...funny, as i have visited the place out of scholarly curiosity before i was finally caught by the cops and slapped with a $180 fine for criminal trespassing...underneath the building lay a network of tunnels...including many cages for the more "unruly," as well as manacles,...don't those count as restraints? having been diagnosed with a severe mental illness 4 years ago (borderline personality disorder) and having been fighting it ever since with 7 medications, i am shocked and appalled...i would like to be granted permission to further investigate the grounds of this hospital legally so that i may gather information and write an essay about this. had i lived earlier, this could have been me, and i am eager tolear more about it...i am curious to know others thoughts about this and if others were aware of this also.

the cemetaries are across the road from the hospital in the woods there are 4 of them and you will need to drive to each of them.good luck! they are really neat

We would like to see it turned in to a pimped haunted house. They don't need anybody to scsre the people, they already have hired work. They should have tours every halloween night or the day "Old book" died

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Rob's last name is Conover. He is a former Marine and PI who wanted to know the unknown and he has been out there to take pictures and do research on it. He has a website. If you go to Google and type in his name they will bring it up.